Topic: Emtional Infidelity?

Here's my story and I need a little guidance. My DH and I have been married for 25 yrs. He was engaged to "Donna" in HS. Donna had a sister "Diane" who had a child and named them the godparents. Donna and him broke it off. Years later when we met and were married, Diane's daughter got married and invited both of us. I thought that would be the only time we would see her, and was I wrong. Maybe I was wrong to even go to the wedding. But that's history.

Well, I just recently(nov) found Diane's number in my husband's cell phone. I didn't say anything just deleted the number. Well in December I saw that she called again and also deleted it her number. This time I asked him about it. He stated that she called him because her brother comitted suicided and needed someone to talk to, then he dropped it. Didn't mention it again.  Just like it was nothing.

I thought about it, and it really bothered me, no hurt me. So one day when he called me at work again, I asked him about it, and told him that it hurt me very much. He acted innocent and said he was sorry. Then continued to say that she's nothing to look at. He would go there and talk to her, and sometimes get chicken feed when we were out(we have chickens). She would do all of the talking, etc. Well, I kind of let that sink in, but the thing is, he didn't talk about it anymore, or even bring it up.

Well, it's been bothering me again, since I don't know how she got his cell phone #, and this past weekend I brought it up. I asked how she got his number, and how would he feel if it was me? (Just last week, he lost his cell phone), well he said to me, good thing that I lost my cell phone now is it? I said, oh don't worry, her number wasn't on it. He then asked me if I deleted it, I said yes. Unfortunately we were in a public place, and I couldn't go into any detail. I asked him if he felt flattered by the attention, but I didn't get any answer. But just his actions, and his facial expressions, seem so strange to me. I don't know how to decribe it.

I also told him that we are talking about it face to face, since I'm not done with it. And I get no reaction at all, and no comment. Just stares.  It may be because of the public place.

I did mention in Dec. to him that this is form of infidelity and he didnt' seem to understand. I said it's emotional....Though this was on the phone. He can talk to me better when we talk on the phone. But he's working on that, since it shouldn't be like that.

He said that she's really nothing to look at.  I still feel hurt inside, and there's a trust factor issue. 

Does anyone know the bible's view on this?

He says it's been going on for maybe 3 years/5 years he said he can't remember. Then he said about 7 years, and he just gave her his cell #, cause "I give everyone my cell #"He says sometimes when she calls he doesn't always answer.

We did talk about it the other night, and he said that he really had no idea that it was wrong. Men are so stupid. 

He said he was sorry. Had no idea that it was a form of infidelity. I explained to him what constitutes it has infedility. (I had done research beforehand of course).

I told him that he needs to close that part of his life and the next time she calls either don't answer the phone, or answer it and tell her NOT to call anymore.  He also said that I'm right, that he should've told me in the begining and should've told me even when he went over there. I told him to put the shoe on the other foot and see how he would feel, he said he really didn't know.  I also asked him if I had to get tested, and he said "no".

We haven't talked about it since Sunday night.  I don't know how to tell him that it hurts still and I don't know how long it'll take to forgive him, or to trust him.  I'm usually a very forgiving person, but this is a little different.

Sorry this is so long, but I thought it needed some background.

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Re: Emtional Infidelity?

Well it seems like you have taken all the appropriate steps with your husband(other than looking at his cell phone).  You have let him know how you feel and why you don't appreciate his actions, reversed the situation to let him see how he might feel in it and given him steps to follow in the future to correct his behavior. 

While you might be a forgiving person you can not expect your hurt over this to go away quickly.  Your husband has hurt your trust in him and it will take a while to gain it back.  If you seriously believe that you husband will end contact with this woman than you have to move on...take your time but move on.  Once he has proven to you that he is trustworthy again your feelings will repair themselves. 

Make sure your husband is following through with the plan of ending contact and just request that if there is any type of contact with her, even if it is she calls and he does not answer, he let you know about it.  By doing this you are maintaining a open line of communication and there will be no surprises in the future.

Re: Emtional Infidelity?

to open my delimma - For about 2 years I have been attracted to a lady at work, (that coincidentally - look just like my wife) and for all that time, I was afraid to say anything to her. I think it was because I was afraid the attraction I had to her could be stronger and I wanted to avoid that putting myself in a predicament.

About me first

I am 46 years old and have been with my wife for 15 years. I am head over heals madly in love with her and have been faithful and though life is very busy with a 4. 6 and 8 year, old, Cub Scouts, Girl Scouts, work and trying to keep the house clean, and all of life's other problems - we still have a great relationship and after many hard years of trying to start living life instead of life living us, we have re-discovered and re-committed ourselves to each other and re-taught ourselves how to make time to be with the other without distraction and spend quality time together, some time back.

I am the kind of man who is in love with romance. It is very important to me. Not sex, ROMANCE. if intercourse should end up being a part of that romance, then so be it, but I could spend the evening snuggled up next to my wife doing nothing more than running my fingers thru her hair, gently kissing on her, staring into her eyes or something as stupid as just smelling her.

I am very meticulous about planning things for her. dates nights I spend the whole day figuring out what I am going to cook, if it needs a sauce, the wine that will go with it, what kind of flowers I will get her, making sure there are plenty of fresh candles. I will make sure the bath tub gets cleaned before I draw her a hot bubble bath, set her up with dozens of candles, a cheese and cracker plate a bottle of wine and music of her choice. I will get her situated then get our children set up and in place for the night camping out in the living room. Then I spend the rest of the night pampering and spoiling my wife. I wash her hair for her, shave her legs, I got this foot care brush with 4 different sides and 2 different kinds of foot scrubber lotion and oil and I give her total foot care... and many other things. When we make love, I set aside all my needs, desires and want for pleasure so that I can focus my energy and attention on satisfying her needs, wants and desires. Oddly enough, - my needs desires and wants for pleasure are always met with such ecstasy that It is unreal. About 6 months ago I gave up smoking after 30 years and started a vigorous workout routine, Since that time, I have improved my body such that my wife crawls in bed every night and tells me what I need to do for her right then and every morning when we wake up, before we get out of bed, she shows me again her love for me with physical contact. It perhaps sounds like I am bragging, but I am simply trying to convey how important my wife is to me and how much I love her, which is what puts me in such a huge confusion.

What I am trying to convey here is, there is no problem with my love and dedication to my wife, but I think there is something wrong with me. there is NO measure by which I could accurately say how much I am in love with my wife.
I have never been in a situation like this and frankly I am confused and I think I might be going crazy.
For as much time as I spend thinking about this young lady that I am afraid I am falling in love with, I spend twice as much time thinking about my wife.
Recently this young lady finally spoke to me ( I suppose she was simply tired of waiting for me to speak to her) and we have since become friends. In fact, in the 3 months or so since we started talking, I now find us sharing lunch everyday, having a 3pm candy bar we split, taking walks at break together, sometime communicating with each other during the work day and I would confess, some very mild tempered flirting.

She is married and has children herself and honestly, nothing inappropriate has happened more than the aforementioned flirting.

What frightens me is I think about her constantly. I can't stop thinking about her and what scares me more is I am not thinking about her in terms of being sexually intimate with her, but rather just how much I want to try and put a smile on her face, do things for her, make her happy, damn - just simply getting to talk to her, etc...

In fact, I almost wish that it could be something as simple as me thinking about her sexually - at least then I could tell in myself that it is just lust for an attractive women, and I am a typical pig. But I can not say that because I am simply unable to think about her in those terms, and I have tried.

When I find myself day dreaming about her, I look at the picture of my wife on my desk in her wedding dress and try and divert my attention to her, sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.


What the heck is wrong with me. I know nothing can ever happen, I think I can say I don't want anything to happen between us - but, I have to be honest and say that is because I am afraid of what I would discover... that being that I am truly in love with her.

dang -- I am so confused, I don't even think I can explain this.


I can not quit my job to remove myself from the ladies presence, I must learn how to cope with this without driving myself crazy.

Even though I am not having sexual fantasies about this lady am I confusing the emotions and feelings I have for her as love when in fact they are just lust? if it is lust, why then can't I just have sexual fantasies about her and be done with it?

This is not only driving me crazy, it is making me feel guilty even though I can not help this - hard as I try to put it out of my mind.

I do not understand how I can find myself madly in love with my wife as I am, yet, crazy in love for another lady such that I spend hours day dreaming about her in ways that include everything but going to bed with her.

How can I be so in love with my wife, have desire to please her like I do and yet at the same time, find myself falling in love for another lady. Why would I spend anytime at all thinking about anything and everything except going to bed with her that I can do for her that makes her happy, makes her smile, makes her feel pampered and spoiled and special....

Re: Emtional Infidelity?

I hear you CA5761.  My husband is doing the same thing with an old flame from high school.  He refuses to give her up as they have a history together.  They dated for five years we have been married for 16 years!!! Not sure how he relates the value of the two relationships but I think if he feels he has to sneak around and stay up all night talking to her something is wrong.

Re: Emtional Infidelity?

TO MR. CONFUSED,
  You said it yourself, YOU ARE IN LOVE WITH ROMANCE. 
Your relationship with this woman is extremely detrimental to both of your marriages.
       
  You say that there is romance in your marriage.  Or at least that you are romantic. Sounds like you do alot of giving and maybe you want more back as well?  Seems Like alot of men who become involved with another woman enjoy the  level of attention they recieve.   
Why not  start  really communicating with your wife.  You obviously care for her. You are attracted to somone that looks like her.  That should tell you something.
   
To  keep continuing what your doing now is just wrong.

Please,Go back and read the original post by ca5761. there are definate similarites with the basic subject matter. It shows some levels of pain that your bound to cause if you don't stop.

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